Fake list censorship

Torbjorn Granlund tg at swox.com
Sun Jun 1 11:33:44 CEST 2008

After Bill Hart's the insinuation that I censor the GMP lists,
soemthing funny happended: When I was going to forward the message
below for William Stein, it was gone.  According to the mailman logs,
it was discared by William Stein:

May 31 23:31:42 2008 (194) gmp-discuss post from wstein at gmail.com held, message-
id=<85e81ba30805311015l10a8f7d0pb6343c157a1763ef at mail.gmail.com>: Post by non-me
mber to a members-only list
May 31 23:32:13 2008 (30074) gmp-discuss: Discarded posting:
        From: wstein at gmail.com
        Subject: Re: TG: "blatant falsehoods and sinister insinuations"
        Reason: Sender discarded message via web.

I don't know if this was setup to then claim that I censored it, to
create some "evidence" of their furious allegations.  To thwart such a
project, let me put William's message on the list:

As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
following mailing list posting:

    List:    gmp-discuss at swox.com
    From:    wstein at gmail.com
    Subject: Re: TG: "blatant falsehoods and sinister insinuations"
    Reason:  Post by non-member to a members-only list

At your convenience, visit:

to approve or deny the request.

From: "William Stein" <wstein at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: TG: "blatant falsehoods and sinister insinuations"
To: "Andre Poenitz" <andre.poenitz at mathematik.tu-chemnitz.de>
Cc: gmp-discuss at swox.com
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:15:01 -0700

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Andre Poenitz
<andre.poenitz at mathematik.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 02:52:30PM -0700, William Stein wrote:
>> > I heard such a rumour, but I refused to believe it; Microsoft's money
>> > has dictated what license a project previously known to be free (as in
>> > freedom) will use.[...]
>> > There is a contract between Microsoft and SAGE stipulating that SAGE
>> > stay GPL 2.  Do you deny this?"
>> Just so you know, yes, we can flatly deny that.  There is *no* contract
>> between Microsoft and Sage.  Microsoft Research gave us funding
>> as an unrestricted gift, and mentioned to us that they can't use anything
>> we give them if it contains GPLv3+ code.  Out of respect we intend
>> to deliver a version of Sage to them that contains no GPLv3+ code.
> Just to make sure that I do not laugh at the wrong time: "They give
> you funding as an unrestricted gift" and only "out of respect" you
> "deliver a version"? Is that what you just wrote?

Yes.   Do you have any real-world experience with contracts,
not-for-profit organizations, businesses, etc.?

 -- William

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