mpz_invert behavior -addendum

Benjamin Eltzner b.eltzner at gmx.de
Sun Apr 13 12:26:48 UTC 2014


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Dear list,

I looked at my linear algebra textbooks and found that the current
behavior of mpz_invert is indeed correct: the definition of unit is
such that it is satisfied by the element of the zero ring thus the
non-zero return value is correct. I am sorry that I was so insistent
on this and I would be grateful, if the case of the zero ring could be
treated in a separate sentence in your documentation, like:
"The element of the zero ring is a unit, therefore if op2 = +-1 the
return value is non-zero and rop = 0."

Best Regards,
Benjamin

Am 13.04.2014 12:32, schrieb Torbjorn Granlund:
> Benjamin Eltzner <b.eltzner at gmx.de> writes:
> 
> To make my discomfort clearer: note that all of the following are
> "true"
> 
> a) for all n: 0 * n = 0 mod 1    (rop = indef, return = 0) b) for
> all n: 0 * n = 1 mod 1    (rop = 0, return != 0) c) for all n: 1 *
> n = 0 mod 1    (rop = indef, return = 0) d) for all n: 1 * n = 1
> mod 1    (rop = 1, return != 0)
> 
> I don't follow how to relate the current GMP behaviour to your
> table. To me the example a and b are the same just like c and d are
> the same. (The number after the = sign is not input to GMP, so how
> you can find different behaviour for these cases is a mystery.)
> 
> I believe we always return 0 as the result of any operation in the
> zero ring.  If you disagree, please show a concrete
> counter-example.  In C code.
> 
> I can imagine there has been a lot of discussion around this and
> you are probably tired of the issue, so I would just like to ask
> you to please update your documentation. (However, should you
> choose to reconsider, I would be very glad if you reverted the
> behavior to case a).)
> 
> I believe the current behaviour is mathematically correct.  The 
> behaviour of older GMP was not mathematically correct in the zero
> ring.
> 
> I agree that there is a slight documentation problem for mpz_invert
> wrt the zero ring.
> 
> Torbjörn Please encrypt, key id 0xC8601622
> 

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