<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8"> <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.2.2"> </HEAD> <BODY>       Hi Torbjorn;     Just to wrap this nice conversation up. We've gone way too off-topic. On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 21:48 +0100, Torbjorn Granlund wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> We're working on GNU, a free operating system. </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE>     GNU, a free operating system?? Debian, you mean? Sheesh.     For your information, I'm a Linux (SuSE 9.2-64) user in the home front,     and I am using it right now to write this. I'm a Linux enthusiastic and     use it since mid-90s (I started with Red Hat 5.0, then moved to     Conectiva and now I'm a happy SuSE user). I love its robustness,     stability and user-friendliness. But I am not blind to its deficiencies     and flaws. For example, the lack of webcam support (hope you don't     hate webcam users, too). The lack of cedilla in my keyboard -- I need     it to write in my native language -- whilst all other accents work fine     (the cedilla used to work in previous versions of SuSE, but not anymore).     And, above all, the infamous "dependency hell" that prevented me so     many times from installing programs that I wanted to install (that is     what I meant to say when I mentioned the "Unix/Linux crap"). All these     issues are completely, or almost completely, unknown to Windows. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> I think you should be grateful for the pieces you can borrow from us. </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE>     "From us" who? There are GNU applications for Windows if I am not     mistaken. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> Popularity among users of non-free environments doesn't score high in my world. </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE>     There is a difference between hating tobacco and hating smokers. ;-)     Many people use Windows because they have no choice, especially     in the work front.     A real free environment and free software champion would try to     show to as many people as possible how good and useful these free     stuff can be. Keeping Windows' users at distance won't get this     job done. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> But we do support GMP on Windows, and thousands of people have succeeded installing it. Your attitude that standard Unix commands are "typical Unix/Linux crap" surely will won't help you to success here. </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE>     It seems that you took my comment personally, for which I apologize.     I didn't mean to hurt anyone. ---Fausto </BODY> </HTML>